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Penn St.= Garbage

  • I know it's not an on the field incident or a recruiting violation but this stuff coming out of Penn St. is more troubling than any and all of that. The administrators, coaches, assistants, presidents etc. all showed poor judgement and lack of institutional control. Besides sentencing Sandusky Penn St. University deserves the death penalty. A message needs to be sent that these types of horrific crimes will not be tolerated.

    Scurvydog74

  • It's really disgusting that so many people would hide this.

    Fomerly known as Garnet&BlackAttack.

    GarnetNBlack247

  • It really is disgusting. The first thing to do us tear Paterno's statue down. He is now a symbol of deceit.

    Scurvydog74

  • Scurvydog74 said...

    I know it's not an on the field incident or a recruiting violation but this stuff coming out of Penn St. is more troubling than any and all of that. The administrators, coaches, assistants, presidents etc. all showed poor judgement and lack of institutional control. Besides sentencing Sandusky Penn St. University deserves the death penalty. A message needs to be sent that these types of horrific crimes will not be tolerated.

    While I understand your point the only thing the death penalty will do is punish the players and students that had absolutely nothing to do with this mess. Place them on probation I am okay with. Place these others in Prison as well I am okay with but the death penalty is going over board but that is just my opinion.

    86cocky

  • One major point I do contend is the others involved should all be charged with Aiding and Abetting. They knew what he was doing was a crime and they covered it up......Just as guilty as Sandusky

    86cocky

  • 86cocky said...

    One major point I do contend is the others involved should all be charged with Aiding and Abetting. They knew what he was doing was a crime and they covered it up......Just as guilty as Sandusky

    Why do you think noone mentions Mrs Sandusky? What was her level of knowledge? Their own adopted son was molested! She had to know something was going on, but was protecting her retirement. I say, bring her up on charges too.

    This post was edited by dshaw on 7/12/2012 at 1:05 PM

    dshaw

  • 86cocky said...

    While I understand your point the only thing the death penalty will do is punish the players and students that had absolutely nothing to do with this mess. Place them on probation I am okay with. Place these others in Prison as well I am okay with but the death penalty is going over board but that is just my opinion.

    While the current players were not part of this mess, the football program was neck deep in it. It was their desire to control everything that led to this tremendous abuse of power by so many. As far as the death penalty goes, it wasn't fair for the vast majority of SMU fans & students and most of the players (I don't think they were paying over half of them), but the intentional rule breaking was part of their system. The players that had their program taken out from under them were part of that same system that was itself guilty. In my opinion, the same holds here. The players may be innocent, but they are part of a program that is guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. And the guilt here is far, far more serious than breaking rules to maintain amateurism. They worked day and night to strive to keep the truth at bay and prevent their program for looking bad, all the time allowing these atrocities to continue. Then, they tried to keep the truth from coming out again so they wouldn't be guilty by association. But in this case, they were guilty not by association, but by actively aiding and abetting continued abuse of those not able to defend themselves.

    Regardless of the people that it will harm, the program has to be hit hard for encouraging an environment of systematic abuse of innocent children. This program cannot go unpunished, or under-punished.

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  • SCFlabbergaster said...

    While the current players were not part of this mess, the football program was neck deep in it. It was their desire to control everything that led to this tremendous abuse of power by so many. As far as the death penalty goes, it wasn't fair for the vast majority of SMU fans & students and most of the players (I don't think they were paying over half of them), but the intentional rule breaking was part of their system. The players that had their program taken out from under them were part of that same system that was itself guilty. In my opinion, the same holds here. The players may be innocent, but they are part of a program that is guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. And the guilt here is far, far more serious than breaking rules to maintain amateurism. They worked day and night to strive to keep the truth at bay and prevent their program for looking bad, all the time allowing these atrocities to continue. Then, they tried to keep the truth from coming out again so they wouldn't be guilty by association. But in this case, they were guilty not by association, but by actively aiding and abetting continued abuse of those not able to defend themselves.

    Regardless of the people that it will harm, the program has to be hit hard for encouraging an environment of systematic abuse of innocent children. This program cannot go unpunished, or under-punished.

    Agree with everything you said

    Scurvydog74

  • SCFlabbergaster said...

    While the current players were not part of this mess, the football program was neck deep in it. It was their desire to control everything that led to this tremendous abuse of power by so many. As far as the death penalty goes, it wasn't fair for the vast majority of SMU fans & students and most of the players (I don't think they were paying over half of them), but the intentional rule breaking was part of their system. The players that had their program taken out from under them were part of that same system that was itself guilty. In my opinion, the same holds here. The players may be innocent, but they are part of a program that is guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. And the guilt here is far, far more serious than breaking rules to maintain amateurism. They worked day and night to strive to keep the truth at bay and prevent their program for looking bad, all the time allowing these atrocities to continue. Then, they tried to keep the truth from coming out again so they wouldn't be guilty by association. But in this case, they were guilty not by association, but by actively aiding and abetting continued abuse of those not able to defend themselves.

    Regardless of the people that it will harm, the program has to be hit hard for encouraging an environment of systematic abuse of innocent children. This program cannot go unpunished, or under-punished.

    I don't disagree with anything that you have said and I totally agree with you. Probation I am for, jail for others I am for but I just think the Death Penalty is too much. SMU was placed on the Death Penalty because they were too stupid to stop after the NCAA had warned them they would step on their throats. If the NCAA had handed down an earlier verdict on them it would have been only probation. SMU continued to cheat after being told to stop. I personally don't think we will ever see the death penalty again in our life time but then again if the NCAA proves me wrong I promise I won't lose any sleep....

    86cocky

  • Garnet&Black247 said...

    It's really disgusting that so many people would hide this.

    That is what I can not wrap my pea brain around.It is unbelievable that not one person had enough character,decency or courage to step forward.I am apalled.

    BobbyLee

  • I think they need a complete overhaul of the entire Penn State culture...I am reading the Freeh report (I'm only on page 80 right now) I'll be back with a detailed report later

    bennetmp

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