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So Alshon just made himself a pile of cash. His brother is coming here to play. Is Alshon allowed to buy his younger brother a car and other cool toys, or would this be some sort of NCAA violation? I ask because if I made millions, one of the first things I'd do is hook my younger brother up. It'd be really stupid if the school could get in trouble for that.
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No expert here, but I think immediate family is fine.
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That's what I was thinking, just thought that since they played at the same school, it could be a problem. Hopefully the NCAA has at least some common sense.
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That's what I was thinking, just thought that since they played at the same school, it could be a problem. Hopefully the NCAA has at least some common sense.

Agree, but common sense and NCAA doesnt mesh well does it? We will probably have to report ourselves when they catch Alshon buying ramen noodles for Shamier.
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Alshon can buy anything he wants for Shamier. It's his freaking brother.
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Alshon can buy anything he wants for Shamier. It's his freaking brother.

Can he buy him love?
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Can he buy him love?

Absolutely. In more ways than one. (no homo)
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Tempest said...
That's what I was thinking, just thought that since they played at the same school, it could be a problem. Hopefully the NCAA has at least some common sense.

The NCAA has not suddenly gotten common sense. However,the precedent for brothers helping brothers has long been set at many schools.
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How about adopted nephws?
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Play cousins?
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VT benefitted from having Marcus Vick but it hurt VT in the long run
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VT benefitted from having Marcus Vick but it hurt VT in the long run

Say whAt ?
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Say whAt ?

Yeah no clue what that means...smokin the cheeba.
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Tempest said...
So Alshon just made himself a pile of cash. His brother is coming here to play. Is Alshon allowed to buy his younger brother a car and other cool toys, or would this be some sort of NCAA violation? I ask because if I made millions, one of the first things I'd do is hook my younger brother up. It'd be really stupid if the school could get in trouble for that.

Chris Smith, who was a Sr on the Louisville bball team this past year, is the brother of New York Knick JR Smith. He was a walk on player as JR paid his room and board to school.
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Tempest said...
So Alshon just made himself a pile of cash. His brother is coming here to play. Is Alshon allowed to buy his younger brother a car and other cool toys, or would this be some sort of NCAA violation? I ask because if I made millions, one of the first things I'd do is hook my younger brother up. It'd be really stupid if the school could get in trouble for that.

If you have known a player a certain amount of time it doesn't matter . Someone around here knows the exact amount
Alshon can buy him 5 cars and pay his way through school if he wanted
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I remember a player a few years ago who bought a bunch of stuff for his former teammates. That was no problem but the NCAA wouldn't let him donate to the University or get sideline passes because that would have made him a booster. Weird rules.
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Say whAt ?

Mike Vick put him up in a badass pad where other players also stayed and partied. They also used it for recruiting purposes, it hurt them in the long run because of the gun charges, under age possession tickets , etc...that came from it.
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As long as you go to clemson, you can do whatever you want, there are rules for all other schools.
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If you have known a player a certain amount of time it doesn't matter . Someone around here knows the exact amount
Alshon can buy him 5 cars and pay his way through school if he wanted

Couple of things:
The rules about impermissible benefits apply to boosters.
The rules specifically exclude family members and legal guardians.
Otherwise, I believe the rules state that you can provide benefits if you have a relationship with the player that pre-dates his or her enrollment in high school. Might be 10th grade, though.
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So Alshon just made himself a pile of cash. His brother is coming here to play. Is Alshon allowed to buy his younger brother a car and other cool toys, or would this be some sort of NCAA violation? I ask because if I made millions, one of the first things I'd do is hook my younger brother up. It'd be really stupid if the school could get in trouble for that.

Family can give whatever they want. For instance, Brian Maddox's folks bought him a Benz with the money they saved for his college tuition. The deal was, get a scholarship and we'll buy you a car. Alshon can give $1,000,000 to Shamier and the NCAA can't do anything about it.
There is a rule though, that if you have known someone prior to the NCAA athletes 8th grade year, you have an existing relationship. If you have an existing relationship, gifts are not considered a violation. Now the rules may be tighter in this instance,and I do not know the, all. But as far as Shamier and Alshon go, there are no limits. I bet Shamier will have a sweet ride this fall, if not already/
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Couple of things:
The rules about impermissible benefits apply to boosters.
The rules specifically exclude family members and legal guardians.
Otherwise, I believe the rules state that you can provide benefits if you have a relationship with the player that pre-dates his or her enrollment in high school. Might be 10th grade, though.

Im quite confident that its 8th grade.
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Cool, thanks for all the info guys.
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As long as you go to clemson, you can do whatever you want, there are rules for all other schools.

You beat me to it. Stay a few nights at the Whitney & receive a bit of help & the NCAA is all over that. Receive cash, cars, and financial assistance for your family from Klempsin which are clearly major violations, but the NCAA chooses to close their eyes to this.
NCAA is about as ethical as the Mafia.
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C&L said...
Couple of things:
The rules about impermissible benefits apply to boosters.
The rules specifically exclude family members and legal guardians.
Otherwise, I believe the rules state that you can provide benefits if you have a relationship with the player that pre-dates his or her enrollment in high school. Might be 10th grade, though.

Think it applies to "representatives of the university's interest" which includes, but it isn't limited to do boosters.
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