Palmetto Proving Grounds

Also, though, Brison Williams was a two out of hs. Jerideau was a two or a three. Devin Taylor was a three. Connor Shaw was a three. Brandon Wilds was a two. Rock Watkins was a two. MOST of the contributors on the team were three stars.

Lot of people on your list were just 3*. Ace Sanders was 3*. Bruce was rated for BB at 4* but a 3* in football B. Williams was a 3* guy coming out of prep. damiere byrd depenging on where you looked was a 3*.
Connor Shaw was a low 3* and even a 2* in some places.

Brison WIlliams was a two star by some sites out of High school. Allen was a 3* out of high school. Even Ace and Vic, as dumb as it is, were three stars by some. Ace and Vic had some of the most diverse rankings I have ever seen. Ace had the most inconsistent rankings in the history of rankings.

You still only named 12 out of the 30 or so that will contribute to this team THIS year. Our coaches do not go by the rankings by this, or any other site( no offense, TBS staff), and the staff here will be the first to tell you that. For instance, Connor Shaw was at most a 3* out of high school, some had him a 2, and he was our number one target at qb. Same for McEvoy.

No doubt, our recruitng has improved. We still will find 'tweeners and such that are not ranked highly and give them scholarships. Many of those will contribute in a big way. We also have to keep in mind that a 3* ranking means that prospect is projected to be a starter, with all-conference potential. What is wrong with that?

Lots of 2 and 3 star players (or lightly recruited, if before stars) who played a lot at USC and in some cases made the NFL:

Captain
Ko
Abraham
Sharpe
D. Taylor
The spur from Alabama
G. Chisholm
Dimarco
Andre Goodman
Dunta Robinson
Jeanpierre
Meredith
Sidney Rice
Travelle Wharton
Matulis
B. Wilds
Shon
Gibson

i named all the people who were listed as four stars on the best team in our history. i dont see how star rankings for our team this year brings validity to your point bc the season hasnt finished yet.

ace was rated correctly as a 5.7 three star. he has all the skills but lacks the size. allen was a 3 out of hs, but a four out of prep, vic hamptons was a stud, his issues had to do with grades. you can sit here and tell me a guy like brison williams was a two star coming out of high school to make yourself feel right, but then i can just click on rivals and see he was a high 3 out of hs and a four star coming out of prep.

and even if you take out the guys who were labeled different rankings on different site you still have 14 players who were 4 stars. that is over half of our starters.

at usc we will always need to rely on great evals by the staff and on three star commits to reach their full potential, but there is a direct correlation between signing more four and five stars, and success. our 2010 season, which in my opinion was our best team recently, was even more heavily dependent on four stars.

i know you will say rivals isnt a good source on judging talent, but considering who they have rated as fours and high threes, it seems as though they were correct.

I think both sides of this arguement over simplify. We need a strong base of four star talent and that means bringing in 9-11 every year. Look I'd love to land 20 every year, but that's not who we are, and it will take a decade of winning and winning big to change where we are. Because we are going to land solid numbers of highly rated we need to also eval well and land another 10 or so good to great evals and hope that half of them contribute. That's the recipe for this program, and its working. All the 3 stars everyone calls out are the good evals, and we've had our share of poor ones, so long as we hit on 60% or more of our 4 star evals, we are going to get better every year.

We need both, but need to realize we don't have uga's in state pool, and aren't a long time winner like some of the big boys, so we need to get as many 4's as we can and then trust the coaches, not that we really have a choice.

Those of you expecting a class of all four stars, need to get over it, and those saying stars don't matter at all, also need to put down the pipe, we need both. Now if SOS can get us a MNC or SEC title, my bad those are the same thing, then things can and will change.

That was my first thought on Kight, but look at his offers. Kid has a very solid offer sheet, me thinks JC's boys have another Wilds on their hands. You don't get offers from us, aubbie, unc, and wake and be a low two star, JMO.

Those guys were hard-nosed football players & not the cause of or a reflection of Carolina's "mediocrity" at the time. A whole lot of other issues then leading to "mediocrity", including sorry-ass QB & OL play. At least we could beat Arkansas w/them & Jordin played a very significant role in our last win against the hogs!!

Lol that was a terrible Arkansas team

Rice was offered by Syracuse and USC. Not aware of others. We are talking about players, not overall teams. Many of the guys on my list had great college careers and made millions in the NFL.

I am all for having plenty of 4 star players. The point is that dissing a guy because he is 3 star or lower is a very premature judgement.

don't think anyone is arguing that you can't strike gold with some lightly recruited kids. But in the aggregate, who do you think wins more games, the program made up of mostly 4 stars, or the program made up mostly of 2 and low 3's? (or the offers that usually correspond with the star ratings)

UNC and Wake Forest make a very solid offer sheet?

Why no UGA offer, or even GaTech?

You were a Wilds basher and asked at leat twenty times why we were taking him (to the point Tony made a comment to you), so your position on this is well understood.