Palmetto Proving Grounds

If I were him, there is no way on earth I would resign. That would be assenine.

Only caveat would be if USC pays my buyout and let's it be called a resignation.

The man has a family. He negotiated a contract in good faith. No reason in the world for him to resign.

Coach Horn should NOT resign under the current circumstances. A resignation on one's resume does NOT look good.

Coach Horn WILL NOT resign, he is not a quitter.

And cost my family 2.whatever million dollars??? Are you freakin kidding? I love all the internet heros that are so honorable online. If I sat 2.4 on a table in front of you right now and said "One way or another, next year you will not be working here. You aren't sure if you can even get another job to make another penny in 2012 but, still, would you please resign so I can keep this 2.4 million dollars here that I'm contractually obligated to pay you if I fire you or do you want me to fire you and hand you this money on you way out the door?"

C'monman. That's just dumb. This is all business.

I agree with this too. 10 wins and no job will not look good not matter how you dress it up. Everyone will know the deal.

What's that got to do with whether or not the man needs to resign or wait to be fired and get the buyout he was promised?

Are you trying the make the case his results suck?? That case was made - and universally accepted - long before today.

The question was not, "should he be gone". It was "should he resign". Two totally separate discussions. Nearly every human that follows basketball as a fan believes he should not be the coach next year, including me. That said, he shouldn't resign.

You would turn down 2.4 million that was already promised to you.

He negotiated a contract. The contract was negotiated by both parties with the understanding it may, or may not, work out in the end. Why do you think things like buyouts are in the contract? Are you that naive?

Two things:

1. There was a buyout if he wanted to leave for another job. If he was wildly successful and wanted to go to another school, do you think USC would not require his buyout? Do you actually believe Eric Hyman would not make him pay? NO WAY.

2. The other buyout was if we wanted to get rid of him. We had to pay him.

If you are going to negotiate one, you negotiate the other. If both are negotiated, you get what you are owed. Period. It didn't state that you only get the buyout if you win "X" games.

That's the way this world works. Both parties take a risk. No party has a moral or ethical obligation to agree not get the buyout one is owed.

He does have a family. Let me give you this example. I wouldn't look my wife or kids in the eyes and say, "You know. I negotiated this contract that tried to prevent me from leaving when I was a hot commodity. They even put in a buyout clause to make it harder for me to leave. Even though, I did that, I am going to resign for poor performance now rather than getting the buyout that was owed to me if they wanted me to leave. We really wouldn't know what to do with that extra $1M+ dollars anyway." NO WAY WOULD I look my family in the eyes and tell them that. I didn't say the guy was making a plea that he couldn't feed his family. I was saying the guy had an opportunity to make his family financially set for a long, long time. That is completely different than the Latrell Spreawell comment. COMPLETELY. Anyone with any sense would understand that point.

I'm glad you aren't my parent/spouse if you really believe that's the right thing to do. If that's the right thing to do, the University shouldn't have structured the contract that way.

By the way. My comment regarding results meant it wasn't an answer as to whether he should resign when you get down to the resignation being about the buyout. We all agree he should be gone. Posting the results didn't change that fact. Also did changet the financial considerations I mentioned above.

We aren't different in our opinions of Horn. We are different in that you are on an internet board making a claim someone should turn down $1M+ that they another party is contractually obligated to provide. You wouldn't do that in real life. Unless you make millions upon millions of dollars already, you wouldn't. No matter what you want us to believe.

Give ME a break.

He won't resign. He has destroyed our basketball program and should resign but it wont happen. He knows his next job will be as coach of a middle school team in Turdbottom, Kentucky. He will milk every dime he can out of us before he leaves.

All this talk is useless anyway. He's not going to resign without taking at least most of the money. Agreeing to take less would be his way of saying "Sorry I turned your program into a dumpster fire." He's not just going to walk away though. He's not a moron. He's coaching basketball to make money and last time I checked the 2.4 had a $ in front of it. It's his compensation in his contract. It's his money to walk away from. Would you walk away from $2.4 million of your dollars? Especially if there's no way you're going to make even 25% of your current salary next year? Dude is getting ready to take a huge pay cut.

Really? Sorry but when you grow up and become a parent, you'll know differently. Love all the kids and their idealism, it's sweet.

Yes. But doubtful that he will.