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What is the worst example of a coach's son playing..

  • Allie McGuire. He was actually pretty good, but his dad said the only reason he started was because he was his son - gotta love Al.

    redfisherman

  • People, seriously. Saul Smith started over Rajon Rondo.

    No way Burnham comes close to that.

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  • JICOCK21 said...

    Shane beamer was bad at va tech.....jeff scott was bad....scott spurrier could not even hang on at charleston southern.....

    The difference is.... And Unfortunately for us, Shane started for 3 years and played a good bit his frosh year.

    Groovy

  • GamecockTripp said...

    There wasn't anyone on the team then who could beat out Shane Burnham. He wasn't very good but he was the best we had.

    Mark Love was better and should have played. I'm sorry, it's almost physically impossible to have a worse LB than what we had playing. He was far from the best we had.

    I still remember when we played UCF when they had Daunte Culpepper. Daunte dropped back into the endzone on one play, and Shane had a clear path to him. Shane hit him as hard as he could, and should have sacked him. Daunte, though, didn't seem bothered by him. He just stood there, surveying the field, while Shane was desperately holding onto him trying to tackle him. Daunte finally went through his progressions and threw the ball and completed it.

    This post was edited by Thomas Sumter on 6/28/2012 at 10:12 AM

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  • elcidcock said...

    Why have a thread geared toward bashing Gamecocks?

    I think there's a Burnham exception to this rule.

    Thomas Sumter

  • Thomas Sumter said...

    Mark Love was better and should have played. I'm sorry, it's almost physically impossible to have a worse LB than what we had playing. He was far from the best we had.

    I still remember when we played UCF when they had Daunte Culpepper. Daunte dropped back into the endzone on one play, and Shane had a clear path to him. Shane hit him as hard as he could, and should have sacked him. Daunte, though, didn't seem bothered by him. He just stood there, surveying the field, while Shane was desperately holding onto him trying to tackle him. Daunte finally went through his progressions and threw the ball and completed it.

    OK. People have opinions and most are different.

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  • I have Mark Love autograph so I know he was better!

    GamecockWorld

  • steve miller said...

    He didn't play. He was a walk-on, and the team loved, and still love Scotty. Everyone who has met him really likes that kid.

    Plus, he was a high school star, if he would have been bigger, he would have been a solid recruit for someone like The Citadel, or Charleston Southern.

    Bottom line, he didn't play, and wasn't on a scholly. There was no resentment for him by the team.

    I did not keep up with the depth chart when Shane Burn ham played. All I know is he was bad. He was the best I've seen at jumping on the pile after someone else made the tackle. He was SLOOWWWW as heck, too. God, was that one slow kid. I bet I am faster than him, and that is saying something.

    I agree, but he took a walkon spot from someone else. Speaking as someone who's been through the walk on process in the past, there is nothing more frustrating than being better than someone that the staff ends up taking. Also, if I remember he got to play in some games and got passes thrown to him when other guys were better.

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  • elcidcock said...

    Why have a thread geared toward bashing Gamecocks?

    I think there's a Burnham exception to this rule.

    Apparently so. Wonder how many of these posters played a snap in the SEC? I'm sure Shane values these opinions.

    This post was edited by elcidcock on 6/28/2012 at 10:26 AM

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  • joetheogre said...

    I agree, but he took a walkon spot from someone else. Speaking as someone who's been through the walk on process in the past, there is nothing more frustrating than being better than someone that the staff ends up taking. Also, if I remember he got to play in some games and got passes thrown to him when other guys were better.

    He's still better than Shane Burnham, and would have been a better MLB than Burnham.

    Scotty also did well on the scout team. Ask any player. He was a star in high school anyways, there is nothing to support we had better walk-on candidates. He's not a good example.

    I think he caught one pass. Who was better? Did they work harder? Perform better in practice? We're talking about a walk-on, there is not enough info to support, or disprove the argument. Hawkins, Burnham, Tommy Bowden, hell, even Saul Smith, who I didn't think was all that bad, are better examples.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by steve miller on 6/28/2012 at 10:43 AM

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    Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.

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  • elcidcock said...

    Apparently so. Wonder how many of these posters played a snap in the SEC? I'm sure Shane values these opinions.

    How many of the posters had Dads that were coaches in the SEC?

    Groovy

  • elcidcock said...

    elcidcock said...

    Why have a thread geared toward bashing Gamecocks?

    I think there's a Burnham exception to this rule.

    Apparently so. Wonder how many of these posters played a snap in the SEC? I'm sure Shane values these opinions.

    yeah let's eliminate all opinions on football unless they are delivered by former players. clap

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  • We played a team in High Scool Basketball who's coach started his son who was in 8th grade and was slow and fat .He started and played in front of much better taller, faster players. I don't thiink you can even play jr high players on varsity teams now!

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  • Yes, but if I recall there was no 1 else to play that is not daddy ball

    JICOCK21

  • Thomas Sumter said...

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    I still remember when we played UCF when they had Daunte Culpepper. Daunte dropped back into the endzone on one play, and Shane had a clear path to him. Shane hit him as hard as he could, and should have sacked him. Daunte, though, didn't seem bothered by him. He just stood there, surveying the field, while Shane was desperately holding onto him trying to tackle him. Daunte finally went through his progressions and threw the ball and completed it.

    I'm with you Thomas - there was a similar thread months or years ago, and I poste3d exactly what you did above. I can picture it like it was yesterday - looked like a poodle humping the neighbor's leg

    redfisherman

  • JICOCK21 said...

    Shane beamer was bad at va tech.....jeff scott was bad....scott spurrier could not even hang on at charleston southern.....

    Scotty did not take PT away from anyone, he did not embarrass the university on the field. I cannot believe his name is even being brought up. It's not what the thread was about. We're talking about people who actually started, affected whether games were won or lost.

    So far, there are 2 that stand out: Shane Burnham, whom I believe Groovy when he said we had a transfer who was better. I too, remember him trying to tackle Culpepper. I don't think Culpepper even noticed him. Anyways, there is no way we did not have a backup safety who would have made a better MLB.

    The other is Saul Smith. I did not know he started over Rondo. That brings it to an entirely new level. That is disgracing the university right there. Inexcusable, imo, for Saul to start over an NBA HOF'er.

    Cody Hawkins was pretty bad also. I just don't think he was as bad as Burnham. And, I don't know that they had a star behind him or anything. I just am too unaware of their depth chart to make a judgement on that.

    This post was edited by steve miller on 6/28/2012 at 11:34 AM

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    Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.

    steve miller

  • PTCcock195 said...

    Clint Trickett is pretty bad for FSU and medically incapable of getting bigger than about 170 lbs.

    Cody Hawkins, son of Dan Hawkins, former Boise State and Colorado coach. That kid could barely throw the ball 15 yards and essentially cost his dad the Colorado job because he wouldn't play anyone else.

    Tricket was the first to come to mind. Scott Spurrier never played meaningful downs

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  • Thomas Sumter said...

    Mark Love was better and should have played. I'm sorry, it's almost physically impossible to have a worse LB than what we had playing. He was far from the best we had.

    I still remember when we played UCF when they had Daunte Culpepper. Daunte dropped back into the endzone on one play, and Shane had a clear path to him. Shane hit him as hard as he could, and should have sacked him. Daunte, though, didn't seem bothered by him. He just stood there, surveying the field, while Shane was desperately holding onto him trying to tackle him. Daunte finally went through his progressions and threw the ball and completed it.

    Im still laughing. I don't remember him, must have been horrible

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  • Steve honest question for you

    Do you think you could stump the Schwab?

    you share so much knowledge with us daily (at least 6 posts per/thread) that you must know everything there is to know about sports right?

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  • redfisherman said...

    I'm with you Thomas - there was a similar thread months or years ago, and I poste3d exactly what you did above. I can picture it like it was yesterday - looked like a poodle humping the neighbor's leg

    That's a good analogy.

    Thomas Sumter

  • steve miller said...

    Scotty did not take PT away from anyone, he did not embarrass the university on the field. I cannot believe his name is even being brought up. It's not what the thread was about. We're talking about people who actually started, affected whether games were won or lost.

    So far, there are 2 that stand out: Shane Burnham, whom I believe Groovy when he said we had a transfer who was better. I too, remember him trying to tackle Culpepper. I don't think Culpepper even noticed him. Anyways, there is no way we did not have a backup safety who would have made a better MLB.

    The other is Saul Smith. I did not know he started over Rondo. That brings it to an entirely new level. That is disgracing the university right there. Inexcusable, imo, for Saul to start over an NBA HOF'er.

    Cody Hawkins was pretty bad also. I just don't think he was as bad as Burnham. And, I don't know that they had a star behind him or anything. I just am too unaware of their depth chart to make a judgement on that.

    Steve...you started the thread! Now you want to dictate someone's opinion because you apparently have a man crush on Scotty. No one has anything against Scotty. The fact that everyone loves him has nothing to do with it.

    You asked who played at a level that had no business being at that level if it were not for being a coach's son. Scotty fits the bill. He was a 5'5" (generous) wide reciever in the SEC- which is a league only surpassed by the AFC and NFC.

    A walk on at this level is a hell of a football player. And i think you were being a bit generous calling him a high school "star." So who did he take playing time from? Another walk on. Another third/fourth stringer.

    He is precisely what you described when you decided to start the thread. He is a guy that would not have played at this level if it were not for his father being the head coach. If you can't see that, I'm sorry.

    simms2000

  • CockStar said...

    People, seriously. Saul Smith started over Rajon Rondo.

    No way Burnham comes close to that.

    Saul Smith is/was a punk but you have to give him a few props. He wasn't completely indebted to his dad. The guy was all state in Georgia and had other major offers. He was a two or three year starter on some UK teams that were damn good- one title and 2-3 SEC championships. I believe he still ranks in the top 10 all time at UK for assists and possibly steals and that ain't too shabby.

    I am not positive, but I believe he bounced around for a year in the NBA before getting into coaching. Regardless, he was a servicable point guard at a very high profile school an he did better in that situation than most would have. But damn I used to "intensely dislike his @ss." Played with him at George Felton basketball camp in the late 80's and he was a little $hit them too.

    simms2000

  • Agree with Steve on this. Scotty never took pt or scholarship money away from anyone. If he was on scholarship his last season it was only because there were extras. Pretty ridiculous his name was brought up.

    Jefe5235

  • mark love was a few years after me in high school but he was a hoss. it pained me to see him play behind burnam.

    BritBrant

  • Jefe` said...

    Agree with Steve on this. Scotty never took pt or scholarship money away from anyone. If he was on scholarship his last season it was only because there were extras. Pretty ridiculous his name was brought up.

    Ridiculous his name was brought up as in you think he would have made the team on his own at UGA, Tenn, Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, etc? Come on. A 5'5" receiver?

    Nah, he didn't make the team because his dad was the HBC. What was I thinking?

    simms2000