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  • els0528 said...

    Rice and KM were not highly regarded Wr when they came in.

    Ratings is an entirely different topic.

    Kenny is the 1 shining example of progression out of what, 20 something players?

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    Ratings is an entirely different topic.

    Kenny is the 1 shining example of progression out of what, 20 something players?

    No he isn't, but you and Flo go over this quarterly

    This post was edited by 97srad750 on 4/4/2012 at 3:22 PM

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  • FloBird said...

    Probably unpopular but here is my humble opinion:

    1) quantity over quality. The numbers are there but I'm not sure this is an overly talented group. TM top three WR are Ace, DL, and Smith. Ace is a good receiver. But at 5'7 he will be limited. DL can block. Smith hasn't shown he can produce in games.

    2) Speed. Byrd is the word. Can he catch? Ace is more quick than fast. The rest aren't burners by any stretch. Need speeds.

    3) Coaching. The biggest issue IMHO. Jr has been blessed with some individually extraordinary guys. Rice, KM, and AJ. I'm sure he has helped in their progress. I think it is glaring though the lack of progress the WR unit, as a whole, has shown. Look at Lawings crew from day one and the growth and transformation to graduation. Now look at Jrs crew. Night and day. Our WR, even the best like AJ, show difficulty in technique. The inability to create seperation. Watch our games last year. You can gave all day to throw. Guys have to get open.

    WR is a huge question mark. On paper it seems we have talent. The jury is still out if they will be put in position to be successful.

    DV away. :)

    Once again .. Showing how negative one can be ... Thanks Flo

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  • 2 of the 3 stooges chimed in. Not sure why Moe hasnt checked in.

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  • Who are the stooges?

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  • When it comes to Jr its Al, Flo, and BCM

    This post was edited by 97srad750 on 4/4/2012 at 3:38 PM

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  • Makes sense....

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  • We are ALL going to be shocked at the season Ace puts in this year. Have we not been paying attention to what the staff has been saying about him? Our DB's are good, and they cannot cover him. Tony and Co. have stated that his progression from last year to this year has been night and day. That right there tells you all you need to know about Jr. Also, lets name a few WR's under Jr that 'haven't developed'; Alshon, Sidney, K Mac, Gurley, etc.

    You cannot compare WR to DL, there is simply a man in front of DL, and many, many more variables in play for WR's.

    Also, Ace, DL, KJ, and Smith were all in the top five in times on the team. Speed issues are not there.

    No offense, but this is probably the least informed argument I have ever heard on this sight. Hands are like arm strength, you either got'em, or you don't. Have you ever watched our WR's block, btw? Jr is one of the best in the country. Its our O-Line people should have questioned in years past.

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  • 97srad750 said...

    No he isn't, but you and Flo go over this quarterly

    And you're here to scold me.

    So who's the shining example then if Kenny isn't?

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    And you're here to scold me.

    So who's the shining example then if Kenny isn't?

    I didn't scold, and I'm certainly not rehashing the info from the last quarterly report.

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  • Also, this has to be the tenth time I have seen such a post. What is the real deal you have with Jr and the WR's?

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    And you're here to scold me.

    So who's the shining example then if Kenny isn't?

    Rice, Sidney

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  • 97srad750 said...

    and I'm certainly not rehashing the info from the last quarterly report.

    Typical post, never anything to back up why you don't like what was said.

    franklinnb said...

    Rice, Sidney

    Good from the get go.

    ^^^

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  • steve miller said...

    We are ALL going to be shocked at the season Ace puts in this year. Have we not been paying attention to what the staff has been saying about him? Our DB's are good, and they cannot cover him. Tony and Co. have stated that his progression from last year to this year has been night and day. That right there tells you all you need to know about Jr. Also, lets name a few WR's under Jr that 'haven't developed'; Alshon, Sidney, K Mac, Gurley, etc.

    You cannot compare WR to DL, there is simply a man in front of DL, and many, many more variables in play for WR's.

    Also, Ace, DL, KJ, and Smith were all in the top five in times on the team. Speed issues are not there.

    No offense, but this is probably the least informed argument I have ever heard on this sight. Hands are like arm strength, you either got'em, or you don't. Have you ever watched our WR's block, btw? Jr is one of the best in the country. Its our O-Line people should have questioned in years past.

    LOL at your last paragraph.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • BCMCock05 said...

    And you're here to scold me.

    So who's the shining example then if Kenny isn't?

    Gurley had 900 yards in 2 seasons. Sanders has 700 in 2 seasons. Barnes had 800 career yards. That's all while sharing time with Jeffrey who was 50 yards shy of breaking the SEC career yardage record.

    Moe Brown had over 1000 career yards and showed progress each year.

    Reality is that while many SEC schools have outrecruited us at WR it's our guys whose names are plastered all over the conference record books.

    Since Bubba came to Carolina Clemson has had 2 more 4 star WR signees and 1 more 5 star. Ours have been better though.

    This post was edited by Jefe5235 on 4/4/2012 at 5:06 PM

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    ^^^

    Again it's a rehashed post. I've addressed it last time you and Flo did this thread. I'm confident that the guy that always searches for funny pictures can search for it.

    97srad750

  • Well the mark of a good coach obviously isn't great players setting records or decent players making progress and filling roles, or even guys changing positions becoming all time record holders. The ultimate mark of a good coach is whether he makes not very good players into all Americans. If he cannot do that then who cares if three of his players hold all the school records between them? It really is all about bad players being all Americans.

    VBCock

  • BCMCock05 said...

    Ratings is an entirely different topic.

    Kenny is the 1 shining example of progression out of what, 20 something players?

    Sounds pretty good to take a player from a raw player to all time great. If it happened more often, what mckinley did would be less impressive.

    Your argument is they are dissapointments and the coach failed...except when he did not. I seriously doubt Jr had nothing to do with alshon, or rice being all Americans.

    Nick saban must be a terrible coach, who has he taken from obscurity to stardom?

    This post was edited by els0528 on 4/4/2012 at 9:24 PM

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