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as1262 said...
This is flat out bullshit. No way in hell your education at some satellite campus was BETTER than one received at the core campus. Once again, where are all your accolades? Your sports teams? Your world renowned professors? Your Thomas Cooper? If it helps you feel better at night to tell yourself your degree was on the same level, then feel free. But it's a hopeless lie.
If I was hiring 2 people with the same resume/CV and the only difference was the school, you bet your ass I'd go with the large state school over the satellite campus. Not saying other small, private schools can't offer what a state school can, but no way a satellite campus can.
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SCFlabbergaster said...
Well, it apparently taught me to read much better than your education did, because my degree IS on the same level as your own. I started and finished in Columbia, as I said earlier. And speaking from a position of knowledge, minus the ignorant bliss you obviously have regarding "satellite" campuses, I can tell you and everyone that I speak with that USC Aiken taught me as well or better in nearly every class I took. I can think of only one class (a lab, actually) where I wasn't taught as well as I would have likely been in Columbia, and in that class I instead learned more about life than probably any that I ever took. The professor that taught that lab knows far more about Physics and applied physics/engineering than anyone that I had at Columbia, although he taught very little of it. But as for nearly every class that I took at Aiken, each was a better learning opportunity than the ones that I had at the "core" campus, where I finished. While at Columbia, I found myself lost in a sea of students more than once and could often not find any real help and would struggle to understand for an entire semester, pulling out my grads at the end to a C or maybe a B. But at Aiken, I knew far more out of my B's and A's (and even one C) than I could have hoped for at Columbia. And this experience was not mine alone, as many of my friends from the engineering department had to come to Columbia to finish the upper division classes. It was amazing how much better each of them understood the subjects from the lower division classes as opposed to our fellow students who'd spent the first two years in Columbia. From an educational standpoint, there was no limitation on Aiken other than the breadth of courses available.
Socially, it was night and day. There wasn't much for me to do in Aiken. Of course, I was working 30 hours a week anyway, but that was the case in both Aiken & Columbia. There wasn't the nightlife that my roommates and I had in Columbia. Nor was there the level of athletic competition. They had golf, baseball and basketball to my knowledge (and were very good this past year in Men's Basketball at their level, from what I understand), but I never went. I've always gone to Columbia to enjoy my Carolina sports.
And if that experience on a poor, small, campus having been doubtless taught by overall-wearing nitwits lowers your opinion of me... well let me just say I wouldn't accede to a second interview with you anyway (not that I'd expect to be interviewed by someone with such a narrow-minded class bias). Those intellectually impure, lower-level, county-renowned (and only wishing to aspire to the world-renowndedness of their peers) professors gave me an education that I not only can be proud of, but can use just as readily as any of the ones that taught me on the Columbia campus.
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SCGamecock84 said...
For those saying satellite schools are the same, answer the question....
True or false, UNC -Greensboro is on par with UNC - Chapel Hill?
The correct answer is a huge false... Same applies to USC Columbia compared to its satellite schools.
I can do nothing but shake my head and laugh at those who actually think a satellite school is on the same level and the degree carries the same weight.
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SCGamecock84 said...
I think what he's trying to say is that if you would have stayed and graduated at USC Aiken, your degree would have been looked down on compared to a USC Columbia degree. Companies look at the school you graduated from, not the quality of your professor.
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rileytm said...
Its funny, while reading this I thought of Clemson and how several of their fans actually went to tri-county. They also have satelite campuses around the state as well as in Italy and Spain. Those fans, I would tend to think don't bicker about who is an alum, or who is a fan because if they are pulling for Clemson then that's all that matters.
So why do we fight amongst ourselves?
I proudly graduated from USC-Columbia and if anyone has a USC ring, or a Gamecock shirt on then I will say hello and talk Carolina.
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as1262 said...
This is flat out bullshit. No way in hell your education at some satellite campus was BETTER than one received at the core campus. Once again, where are all your accolades? Your sports teams? Your world renowned professors? Your Thomas Cooper? If it helps you feel better at night to tell yourself your degree was on the same level, then feel free. But it's a hopeless lie.
If I was hiring 2 people with the same resume/CV and the only difference was the school, you bet your ass I'd go with the large state school over the satellite campus. Not saying other small, private schools can't offer what a state school can, but no way a satellite campus can.
This post was edited by Garnet I Bleed on 5/30/2012 at 4:49 PM
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shaun13 said...
So, if you met someone who said he played baseball at USC, and you found out it was USC Upstate, would you consider it misleading?
Afterall, it's the usc right? That's a bad example, but meant more as hyperbole.
More importantly, It's 100 percent proper etiquette to list the city in which you attended college on your resume. If you simply listed The University of North Carolina on your resume, when in reality you attended UNC Wilmington, you would be looked at as a fraud when an employer performed a background check and education verification.
Same as USC.
I actually had this happen, as an employer, as someone listed "University of Michigan" on their resume, yet she had attended University of Michigan in kalamazoo...its not the same.
Now, i do not look down upon, nor judge anyone, to each his/her own...but at best its misleading and at worst its borderline fraud IMO.
Technically, yes, you may have graduated from "The University of South Carolina system" but, again, it would be very misleading to list that on your resume and not specify the city and actual campus you attended.
The admissions requirements are in no way similar either. Now, each individuals education probably came down to what he/she was dedicated to achieving, regardless of college choice, so i do not mean someone is smarter or less smart regardless of their choice of school. However, i doubt you could find many USC-Columbia, UNC-Chapel Hill, University of Michigan - ann arbor, etc... Graduates Who would argue that their satellite campuses are "the same degree."
Everyone has a right to their opinion though, and i will not be offended either way, unless it was an employee/employer situation. In which case, i would consider it, even with benefit of the doubt, misleading at best.
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Garnet I Bleed said...
Wow...... You are something bro! I am a recruiter and the number one thing I look at is how the person responds to me in and interview! Period also just to let you know you are leaving your self open for legal troubles with your post here. Also I'm not a USC alum but I dare you to question my fan hood. Actually I think it would be fun if you did. I would love to sit in on an interview with as I think you probably hire unqualified candidates a lot!!!!!!
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shaun13 said...
So, if you met someone who said he played baseball at USC, and you found out it was USC Upstate, would you consider it misleading?
Afterall, it's the usc right? That's a bad example, but meant more as hyperbole.
More importantly, It's 100 percent proper etiquette to list the city in which you attended college on your resume. If you simply listed The University of North Carolina on your resume, when in reality you attended UNC Wilmington, you would be looked at as a fraud when an employer performed a background check and education verification.
Same as USC.
I actually had this happen, as an employer, as someone listed "University of Michigan" on their resume, yet she had attended University of Michigan in kalamazoo...its not the same.
Now, i do not look down upon, nor judge anyone, to each his/her own...but at best its misleading and at worst its borderline fraud IMO.
Technically, yes, you may have graduated from "The University of South Carolina system" but, again, it would be very misleading to list that on your resume and not specify the city and actual campus you attended.
The admissions requirements are in no way similar either. Now, each individuals education probably came down to what he/she was dedicated to achieving, regardless of college choice, so i do not mean someone is smarter or less smart regardless of their choice of school. However, i doubt you could find many USC-Columbia, UNC-Chapel Hill, University of Michigan - ann arbor, etc... Graduates Who would argue that their satellite campuses are "the same degree."
Everyone has a right to their opinion though, and i will not be offended either way, unless it was an employee/employer situation. In which case, i would consider it, even with benefit of the doubt, misleading at best.
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as1262 said...
I'm just gonna go ahead and throw this out there, because I know I'm not the only one thinking this, but no. You're not what I would consider an alumni of USC. Youre degree does not say USC. It says USC-______. Sorry to bust your bubble.
This is why I hate the new USC commercials. And as I said before, I know I'm not alone because I have talked to lots of other alumni and friends about this topic. (Or maybe were are just jerks?) The new commercials spout out on about all our satellite campuses. Who cares? I went to USC Columbia. Thats where our athletes go. Thats the campus that makes the moolah. Last time I checked, Williams Brice wasnt in Beaufort and Darla Moore wasn't giving money to USC Mauldin or USC Simpsonville or something. I'm a Gamecock. Not a USC Upstate Spartan or whatever all their other mascots are. If you can't get into USC, which is NOT that hard a school to get into if you're a B level high school student, then you shouldn't be able to consider yourself an alumni of USC Columbia.
Do alumni of UNC Charlotte and UNC Greensboro consider themselves alumni of THE UNC (Chapel Hill)? I would hope not. Do alumni of U Cal San Bernandino consider themselves alumni of THE Univ of Cal (Berkley)? Once again, I hope not.
Not saying they can't be fans. Sure, go for it. The more the merrier. But don't wear your ring around like you graduated from USC Columbia, much less experienced it in all it's glory. If someone told me in conversation they were an alumni of USC and then come to find out they went to USC Aiken, I'd consider them a wanna-be. That's always an interesting situation..."Oh you went to USC? What year?"..."19_ _."..."Oh nice. I'm class of 19_ _. Good times, huh?"..."Yeah totally."..."Oh yeah. *Talk football and other odds and ends until you realize he knows nothing* You ever go out to 5 Points? What a place. Lots of memories."..."Nah, never really got to go. I actually went to USC XYZ."...and then you give a resounding "Oooohhhhh ok" and walk away. And yes that HAS happened to me on more than one occasion. People DO lie (gasp!) about their education. My uncle claims he went to the same school as my mom and it drives her nuts. Hell, look at the recent hoopla at Yahoo over Scott Thompson. Anyways, rant over. Flamers flame away, haters gonna hate.
The piece of paper says it all. It's like the title to your car. Don't tell people you drive a 2010 model if you drive an 08 and the body styles are similar.
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iif u go to usc aiken does that make u a gamecocks alum?