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iif u go to usc aiken does that make u a gamecocks alum?

  • Didn't realize sports teams or a library gave you a great education

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  • as1262 said...

    This is flat out bullshit. No way in hell your education at some satellite campus was BETTER than one received at the core campus. Once again, where are all your accolades? Your sports teams? Your world renowned professors? Your Thomas Cooper? If it helps you feel better at night to tell yourself your degree was on the same level, then feel free. But it's a hopeless lie.

    If I was hiring 2 people with the same resume/CV and the only difference was the school, you bet your ass I'd go with the large state school over the satellite campus. Not saying other small, private schools can't offer what a state school can, but no way a satellite campus can.

    Well, it apparently taught me to read much better than your education did, because my degree IS on the same level as your own. I started and finished in Columbia, as I said earlier. And speaking from a position of knowledge, minus the ignorant bliss you obviously have regarding "satellite" campuses, I can tell you and everyone that I speak with that USC Aiken taught me as well or better in nearly every class I took. I can think of only one class (a lab, actually) where I wasn't taught as well as I would have likely been in Columbia, and in that class I instead learned more about life than probably any that I ever took. The professor that taught that lab knows far more about Physics and applied physics/engineering than anyone that I had at Columbia, although he taught very little of it. But as for nearly every class that I took at Aiken, each was a better learning opportunity than the ones that I had at the "core" campus, where I finished. While at Columbia, I found myself lost in a sea of students more than once and could often not find any real help and would struggle to understand for an entire semester, pulling out my grads at the end to a C or maybe a B. But at Aiken, I knew far more out of my B's and A's (and even one C) than I could have hoped for at Columbia. And this experience was not mine alone, as many of my friends from the engineering department had to come to Columbia to finish the upper division classes. It was amazing how much better each of them understood the subjects from the lower division classes as opposed to our fellow students who'd spent the first two years in Columbia. From an educational standpoint, there was no limitation on Aiken other than the breadth of courses available.

    Socially, it was night and day. There wasn't much for me to do in Aiken. Of course, I was working 30 hours a week anyway, but that was the case in both Aiken & Columbia. There wasn't the nightlife that my roommates and I had in Columbia. Nor was there the level of athletic competition. They had golf, baseball and basketball to my knowledge (and were very good this past year in Men's Basketball at their level, from what I understand), but I never went. I've always gone to Columbia to enjoy my Carolina sports.

    And if that experience on a poor, small, campus having been doubtless taught by overall-wearing nitwits lowers your opinion of me... well let me just say I wouldn't accede to a second interview with you anyway (not that I'd expect to be interviewed by someone with such a narrow-minded class bias). Those intellectually impure, lower-level, county-renowned (and only wishing to aspire to the world-renowndedness of their peers) professors gave me an education that I not only can be proud of, but can use just as readily as any of the ones that taught me on the Columbia campus.

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  • For those saying satellite schools are the same, answer the question....

    True or false, UNC -Greensboro is on par with UNC - Chapel Hill?

    The correct answer is a huge false... Same applies to USC Columbia compared to its satellite schools.

    I can do nothing but shake my head and laugh at those who actually think a satellite school is on the same level and the degree carries the same weight.

    SCGamecock84

  • SCFlabbergaster said...

    Well, it apparently taught me to read much better than your education did, because my degree IS on the same level as your own. I started and finished in Columbia, as I said earlier. And speaking from a position of knowledge, minus the ignorant bliss you obviously have regarding "satellite" campuses, I can tell you and everyone that I speak with that USC Aiken taught me as well or better in nearly every class I took. I can think of only one class (a lab, actually) where I wasn't taught as well as I would have likely been in Columbia, and in that class I instead learned more about life than probably any that I ever took. The professor that taught that lab knows far more about Physics and applied physics/engineering than anyone that I had at Columbia, although he taught very little of it. But as for nearly every class that I took at Aiken, each was a better learning opportunity than the ones that I had at the "core" campus, where I finished. While at Columbia, I found myself lost in a sea of students more than once and could often not find any real help and would struggle to understand for an entire semester, pulling out my grads at the end to a C or maybe a B. But at Aiken, I knew far more out of my B's and A's (and even one C) than I could have hoped for at Columbia. And this experience was not mine alone, as many of my friends from the engineering department had to come to Columbia to finish the upper division classes. It was amazing how much better each of them understood the subjects from the lower division classes as opposed to our fellow students who'd spent the first two years in Columbia. From an educational standpoint, there was no limitation on Aiken other than the breadth of courses available.

    Socially, it was night and day. There wasn't much for me to do in Aiken. Of course, I was working 30 hours a week anyway, but that was the case in both Aiken & Columbia. There wasn't the nightlife that my roommates and I had in Columbia. Nor was there the level of athletic competition. They had golf, baseball and basketball to my knowledge (and were very good this past year in Men's Basketball at their level, from what I understand), but I never went. I've always gone to Columbia to enjoy my Carolina sports.

    And if that experience on a poor, small, campus having been doubtless taught by overall-wearing nitwits lowers your opinion of me... well let me just say I wouldn't accede to a second interview with you anyway (not that I'd expect to be interviewed by someone with such a narrow-minded class bias). Those intellectually impure, lower-level, county-renowned (and only wishing to aspire to the world-renowndedness of their peers) professors gave me an education that I not only can be proud of, but can use just as readily as any of the ones that taught me on the Columbia campus.

    I think what he's trying to say is that if you would have stayed and graduated at USC Aiken, your degree would have been looked down on compared to a USC Columbia degree. Companies look at the school you graduated from, not the quality of your professor.

    SCGamecock84

  • SCGamecock84 said...

    For those saying satellite schools are the same, answer the question....

    True or false, UNC -Greensboro is on par with UNC - Chapel Hill?

    The correct answer is a huge false... Same applies to USC Columbia compared to its satellite schools.

    I can do nothing but shake my head and laugh at those who actually think a satellite school is on the same level and the degree carries the same weight.

    I have no idea. I haven't been to either. But I have been to USC in Columbia and Aiken. I do not aspire to be knowledgeable about the University of North Carolina system. Nor do or I now or ever did aspire to attend a junior college or community college. What I did was attend two of the eight campuses that are part of the University of South Carolina system; two that gave me the education that I needed to attain the career that I have now.

    So shake your head all you want, but a degree from the University of South Carolina is a degree from the University of South Carolina, regardless of the campus. And no matter how much you want to argue the point, the actual ability to learn for many is greater at some of the regional campuses. Having gone to both, I know the differences. You have all the access to Columbia's information (such as the Thomas Cooper Library if you need more research than what you can find at the Gregg-Graniteville Library) and other resources when needed. And you have just as good, if not better professors in many instances. You do not have the same variety of programs, but those that are offered are at least on-par with Columbia's with few exceptions (and since there is no International Business undergraduate program or MIBS at USCA, that is part of the lack of variety although the undergraduate business program at Aiken has been noted in this thread as being worthwhile).

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  • Lol at these people being trolled by the op. wasnt even a good troll either

    blossomstreet

  • blossomstreet said...

    Lol at these people being trolled by the op. wasnt even a good troll either

    If it was a troll in the beginning, I have no idea. What it has done though, is show some very inflated egos, lack of people skills, etc. I don't care if your degree is from main campus Harvard, if you can't carry on a reasonable conversation and have respect for people with differing views, you probably better keep that resume' handy. JMHO, but talk about shaking one's head. Geez...

    Bunzie

  • SCGamecock84 said...

    I think what he's trying to say is that if you would have stayed and graduated at USC Aiken, your degree would have been looked down on compared to a USC Columbia degree. Companies look at the school you graduated from, not the quality of your professor.

    I understand that some companies look at your school, although I've never had any issues with it (and from your point, I suppose I shouldn't). But as far as the quality of education, which is a large part of what makes a productive work force in many sectors, the quality of the education should be paramount. In fact, I would submit that it eventually will be. Those who got the better education will eventually rise to the top over those who did not.

    I'm not going to say that you can get a better resume blurb than MIBS if you graduated from USC-A. But you can't get any better anywhere, really. So USC's flagship academic program is unfair to compare to. Anyone with the opportunity to get into the Columbia International Business program would be a fool to go elsewhere, no matter the location.

    What I take issue with is the presumption that because an individual has a degree from a separate campus that he should be looked down upon as having inferior intellect (which is what some posters are at least implying, if not explicitly stating). First off, though a degree might open a door, it rarely (and should never) gets someone through the interview process. Secondly, to think that you get thrown in a reject pile because your city listed next to "The University Of South Carolina" is not Columbia is a sad point to make, if true. I'm far enough into my career that my education does not matter as much, but my experience has taken over as projection of my worth. So it makes little difference to me. But to think that early on, that could have been a deciding factor seems cheap to me. Finally, Human Resources activities are largely a one-off routine after the initial screening for job experience. If you have the chops to do a job, education is down the list on deciding factors unless you are just starting out your career and have made no industry contacts (b/c, as many of us know, networking is where it's at). While I might get a boost over the OP if everything else were the same in South Carolina, it would hardly be fair to have that as the final thing tipping the scale in my favor. And if you're far enough outside the state, no one is going to know the difference anyway.

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  • Its funny, while reading this I thought of Clemson and how several of their fans actually went to tri-county. They also have satelite campuses around the state as well as in Italy and Spain. Those fans, I would tend to think don't bicker about who is an alum, or who is a fan because if they are pulling for Clemson then that's all that matters.

    So why do we fight amongst ourselves?

    I proudly graduated from USC-Columbia and if anyone has a USC ring, or a Gamecock shirt on then I will say hello and talk Carolina.

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  • rileytm said...

    Its funny, while reading this I thought of Clemson and how several of their fans actually went to tri-county. They also have satelite campuses around the state as well as in Italy and Spain. Those fans, I would tend to think don't bicker about who is an alum, or who is a fan because if they are pulling for Clemson then that's all that matters.

    So why do we fight amongst ourselves?

    I proudly graduated from USC-Columbia and if anyone has a USC ring, or a Gamecock shirt on then I will say hello and talk Carolina.

    Amen!! No need to argue and eat our own. Let the Taters do that. If you're a Gamecock, you're certainly welcome, and thus should count yourself among equals as brothers and sisters of the garnet and black!! GO COCKS!!

    Bunzie

  • as1262 said...

    This is flat out bullshit. No way in hell your education at some satellite campus was BETTER than one received at the core campus. Once again, where are all your accolades? Your sports teams? Your world renowned professors? Your Thomas Cooper? If it helps you feel better at night to tell yourself your degree was on the same level, then feel free. But it's a hopeless lie.

    If I was hiring 2 people with the same resume/CV and the only difference was the school, you bet your ass I'd go with the large state school over the satellite campus. Not saying other small, private schools can't offer what a state school can, but no way a satellite campus can.

    Wow...... You are something bro! I am a recruiter and the number one thing I look at is how the person responds to me in and interview! Period also just to let you know you are leaving your self open for legal troubles with your post here. Also I'm not a USC alum but I dare you to question my fan hood. Actually I think it would be fun if you did. I would love to sit in on an interview with as I think you probably hire unqualified candidates a lot!!!!!!

    This post was edited by Garnet I Bleed on 5/30/2012 at 4:49 PM

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  • But what if someone takes online classes through the USC system and their degree is from USC but they have never stepped foot on campus? Please tell me what your opinion is so I can judge my self-worth by it...blank

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  • jtwarlick said...

    Your degree says the University of South Carolina and you have the option of walking in cola as well

    You will also see the university president (Columbia) and board members at the graduations speaking and handing out diplomas.The schools are part of the University system and the USC President considers them part of the University of South Carolina.

    PAC604

  • So, if you met someone who said he played baseball at USC, and you found out it was USC Upstate, would you consider it misleading?

    Afterall, it's the usc right? That's a bad example, but meant more as hyperbole.

    More importantly, It's 100 percent proper etiquette to list the city in which you attended college on your resume. If you simply listed The University of North Carolina on your resume, when in reality you attended UNC Wilmington, you would be looked at as a fraud when an employer performed a background check and education verification.

    Same as USC.

    I actually had this happen, as an employer, as someone listed "University of Michigan" on their resume, yet she had attended University of Michigan in kalamazoo...its not the same.

    Now, i do not look down upon, nor judge anyone, to each his/her own...but at best its misleading and at worst its borderline fraud IMO.

    Technically, yes, you may have graduated from "The University of South Carolina system" but, again, it would be very misleading to list that on your resume and not specify the city and actual campus you attended.

    The admissions requirements are in no way similar either. Now, each individuals education probably came down to what he/she was dedicated to achieving, regardless of college choice, so i do not mean someone is smarter or less smart regardless of their choice of school. However, i doubt you could find many USC-Columbia, UNC-Chapel Hill, University of Michigan - ann arbor, etc... Graduates Who would argue that their satellite campuses are "the same degree."

    Everyone has a right to their opinion though, and i will not be offended either way, unless it was an employee/employer situation. In which case, i would consider it, even with benefit of the doubt, misleading at best.

    shaun13

  • I graduated from wofford but pulled some tail at USC. Does that make me an alum?

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  • shaun13 said...

    So, if you met someone who said he played baseball at USC, and you found out it was USC Upstate, would you consider it misleading?

    Afterall, it's the usc right? That's a bad example, but meant more as hyperbole.

    More importantly, It's 100 percent proper etiquette to list the city in which you attended college on your resume. If you simply listed The University of North Carolina on your resume, when in reality you attended UNC Wilmington, you would be looked at as a fraud when an employer performed a background check and education verification.

    Same as USC.

    I actually had this happen, as an employer, as someone listed "University of Michigan" on their resume, yet she had attended University of Michigan in kalamazoo...its not the same.

    Now, i do not look down upon, nor judge anyone, to each his/her own...but at best its misleading and at worst its borderline fraud IMO.

    Technically, yes, you may have graduated from "The University of South Carolina system" but, again, it would be very misleading to list that on your resume and not specify the city and actual campus you attended.

    The admissions requirements are in no way similar either. Now, each individuals education probably came down to what he/she was dedicated to achieving, regardless of college choice, so i do not mean someone is smarter or less smart regardless of their choice of school. However, i doubt you could find many USC-Columbia, UNC-Chapel Hill, University of Michigan - ann arbor, etc... Graduates Who would argue that their satellite campuses are "the same degree."

    Everyone has a right to their opinion though, and i will not be offended either way, unless it was an employee/employer situation. In which case, i would consider it, even with benefit of the doubt, misleading at best.

    Yeah... It baffles me that so many in this thread are delusional enough to believe satellite campuses are equal to USC Columbia.

    SCGamecock84

  • Garnet I Bleed said...

    Wow...... You are something bro! I am a recruiter and the number one thing I look at is how the person responds to me in and interview! Period also just to let you know you are leaving your self open for legal troubles with your post here. Also I'm not a USC alum but I dare you to question my fan hood. Actually I think it would be fun if you did. I would love to sit in on an interview with as I think you probably hire unqualified candidates a lot!!!!!!

    Legal troubles?? Yeah right I'm sure he is.... And chill out dude, nobody is questioning your fan status. Recruiter for what kind of company? just curious

    SCGamecock84

  • shaun13 said...

    So, if you met someone who said he played baseball at USC, and you found out it was USC Upstate, would you consider it misleading?

    Afterall, it's the usc right? That's a bad example, but meant more as hyperbole.

    More importantly, It's 100 percent proper etiquette to list the city in which you attended college on your resume. If you simply listed The University of North Carolina on your resume, when in reality you attended UNC Wilmington, you would be looked at as a fraud when an employer performed a background check and education verification.

    Same as USC.

    I actually had this happen, as an employer, as someone listed "University of Michigan" on their resume, yet she had attended University of Michigan in kalamazoo...its not the same.

    Now, i do not look down upon, nor judge anyone, to each his/her own...but at best its misleading and at worst its borderline fraud IMO.

    Technically, yes, you may have graduated from "The University of South Carolina system" but, again, it would be very misleading to list that on your resume and not specify the city and actual campus you attended.

    The admissions requirements are in no way similar either. Now, each individuals education probably came down to what he/she was dedicated to achieving, regardless of college choice, so i do not mean someone is smarter or less smart regardless of their choice of school. However, i doubt you could find many USC-Columbia, UNC-Chapel Hill, University of Michigan - ann arbor, etc... Graduates Who would argue that their satellite campuses are "the same degree."

    Everyone has a right to their opinion though, and i will not be offended either way, unless it was an employee/employer situation. In which case, i would consider it, even with benefit of the doubt, misleading at best.

    Honest question: did you ask the employee what her degree said? Although I would presume to see the city & year graduated on the resume (although not a hard and fast requirement), that should not be the only place that education is listed. In even my most recent jobs, I've been required to fill out applications that include the city of my educational stops all the way back to high school. So that is where I would have put Columbia even if it hadn't been on my resume. But back to my question, if her diploma said University of Michigan, then she has every right to list that on her resume. If it said University of Michigan - Kalamazoo, that is what she should put. If/when asked, she would only be committing fraud when she lied about the campus. And she should be required to submit that answer somewhere in the process.

    I don't know how much easier it is to get into USC-Sumter, Aiken or Salkahatchee than it is to get in Columbia, as I had no problem getting in either place. But I do know that I respect anyone that graduated from any of them the same due to my experience in both the satellite and central campuses. Since their diploma states the same thing as my own (The University of South Carolina, giving no indication of the campus attended), I would argue (and, I guess, have argued quite vehemently) that mine and theirs are "the same degree." I may be in the minority, but I know I'm not alone b/c of a group of people that shared the same experience that I had at the same time feel the same way.

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  • as1262 said...

    I'm just gonna go ahead and throw this out there, because I know I'm not the only one thinking this, but no. You're not what I would consider an alumni of USC. Youre degree does not say USC. It says USC-______. Sorry to bust your bubble.

    This is why I hate the new USC commercials. And as I said before, I know I'm not alone because I have talked to lots of other alumni and friends about this topic. (Or maybe were are just jerks?) The new commercials spout out on about all our satellite campuses. Who cares? I went to USC Columbia. Thats where our athletes go. Thats the campus that makes the moolah. Last time I checked, Williams Brice wasnt in Beaufort and Darla Moore wasn't giving money to USC Mauldin or USC Simpsonville or something. I'm a Gamecock. Not a USC Upstate Spartan or whatever all their other mascots are. If you can't get into USC, which is NOT that hard a school to get into if you're a B level high school student, then you shouldn't be able to consider yourself an alumni of USC Columbia.

    Do alumni of UNC Charlotte and UNC Greensboro consider themselves alumni of THE UNC (Chapel Hill)? I would hope not. Do alumni of U Cal San Bernandino consider themselves alumni of THE Univ of Cal (Berkley)? Once again, I hope not.

    Not saying they can't be fans. Sure, go for it. The more the merrier. But don't wear your ring around like you graduated from USC Columbia, much less experienced it in all it's glory. If someone told me in conversation they were an alumni of USC and then come to find out they went to USC Aiken, I'd consider them a wanna-be. That's always an interesting situation..."Oh you went to USC? What year?"..."19_ _."..."Oh nice. I'm class of 19_ _. Good times, huh?"..."Yeah totally."..."Oh yeah. *Talk football and other odds and ends until you realize he knows nothing* You ever go out to 5 Points? What a place. Lots of memories."..."Nah, never really got to go. I actually went to USC XYZ."...and then you give a resounding "Oooohhhhh ok" and walk away. And yes that HAS happened to me on more than one occasion. People DO lie (gasp!) about their education. My uncle claims he went to the same school as my mom and it drives her nuts. Hell, look at the recent hoopla at Yahoo over Scott Thompson. Anyways, rant over. Flamers flame away, haters gonna hate.

    The piece of paper says it all. It's like the title to your car. Don't tell people you drive a 2010 model if you drive an 08 and the body styles are similar.

    If you're gonna be a douche... At least be an informed douche. My brother and I both spent our 4 years in Columnbia. Both of my parents recieved their degrees from Coastal back in the day... All four of our diplomas are identical in every way and awarded by "The University of South Carolina." So yes, you are right, it is all about the paper. If the diploma says "The University of South Carolina" your are an alumni.
    Although, I do get some of y'alls points regarding sports... Going to USC-Aiken doesn't make you a Gamecock. Course neither does going to Columbia as their is always a tater or two lingering around campus. Being a Gamecock is more about whats in your heart imo... a state of mind if you will. My Dad for example... During that Super Regional when the Coastal people were being a-holes about the tickets, not once did my Father ever say "I'm a Coastal alum." He was head-to-toe in Garnet, and we kept walking around the stadium till we finally found some fellow Gamecocks who'd sold us their extra tickets...and for a reasonable price I might add. To those so called "Gamecocks" who were there that day and tried to gouge us...go f yourselves. Going back to that "state of mind thing." Preffering to hand your extra tickets over to the enemy instead of hooking up a fellow Gamecock (and I do think "reasonable" on that particular day was something moderately over face value)... makes you a dick and NOT a Gamecock. I'm a believer in the market and all, I just feel that the fact that "I'm a Gamecock and they're not" shoulda been a variable factored into determing the value of the tickets. Because choosing instead to opt for the "highest bidder" and putting two Chants into the stadium over two Gamecocks means you are actively taking measures to hinder your teams chances at success, and again, makes you NOT a Gamecock...regardless if you're an alimni of the University or not...but thats another rant for another day, lol!

    colinUSC

  • as1262 said...

    Thank you! The whole discussion was originally based around whether a USC Aiken graduate can be considered a USC Columbia alumni. When SCAR scrolls across the bottom of ESPN and people think of USC Fountain Inn, I'll correct myself. Til then, you're not a a Gamecodk on paper.

    Not only are you a dbag but you showed your dbagness from a troll.

    abc2

  • what happens if you took 111 core hours at usc columbia 3 hours at usc lancaster over the summer for a class you struggled in columbia and six hours at york county tech. when you walk in the colonial center should they put an asterik beside the name??? Are all 120 hours for a 4 year degree required to be a usc columbia graduate??

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  • I just wonder how many of you "my cock is bigger than your cock" snobs are unemployed? fess up, tools!

    Claymation

  • affirmative

    GarnetOP

  • You guys are hilarious! OP said does that make him a "Gamecock alum?". The problem is in the wording...the argument that ensued is laughable...is he a Gamecock? I'm sure he is...is he a USC system alum? Absolutely he is! Is he a Gamecock alum? 'Fraid not...he screwed himself in the wording...that's JMHO...anyway Go Cocks! At least we can agree in that!

    Make sure that they remember, forever, the night they played the Titans!!!

    usccop