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GwinnettGmecock said...
"We won, durr" is such an empty response that you would be better off saying nothing. Guess we should instruct our LF'er to misread fly balls and give up a couple undeserved early runs every game.
Make sure that they remember, forever, the night they played the Titans!!!
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usccop said...
Thanks for wasting all of your time with useless research...I guess my point should have more clearly stated...why don't you give up with the "anti-bunt" rants as it's obvious Coach Tanner isn't impressed with your baseball "knowledge" or fancy research?
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usccop said...
I guess I just don't understand why you continue with the argument is all...I mean do you expect us to stop bunting or do you just want to make sure everyone sees you as the baseball guru that you envision yourself as? What's your angle GG?
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GwinnettGmecock said...
How so?
I just reviewed the play by play, and we definitely lost two of our first twelve outs on bunts. That seems to indicate my post was accurate. Perhaps you meant to dispute my opinion with a thoughtful post indicative of a rational adult, but the reply was hijacked by a 14 year old.
Last night's sac bunts or sac bunt attempts: USC 2nd: One out, runner on 1st, 9 hole hitter and DB candidate Rosenberg (.212) bunts runner to 2nd. Pankake pops up to end inning.
UF 3rd: No outs, runner on 1st, Ramjit (.273) fails to bunt, hits single with 2 strikes No outs, runners on 1st and 2nd, Tobias (.258) pops up bunt for 1st out
USC 4th: No outs, 1st and 2nd, Vergason (.268) bunts into fielder's choice, lead runner out at 3rd
USC 5th: No outs, 2nd, English (.311) bunts runner to 3rd for 1st out. Vargason follows with single which would have scored runner from 2nd.
USC 6th: No outs, 1st, Marzili (.291) bunts runner to 2nd for 1st out. Runner dies on 2nd.
UF 7th: No outs, 1st and 2nd, Fontanta (.285) bunts runners over. No runs score in inning.
USC 9th: No outs, 1st, Matthews bunts runner to 2nd. Runner eventually scores on wild pitch. I don't have a big problem with this one, as an insurance run was huge with Price on the mound. My main point is you don't give away outs early in the game when future needs are not known. With a 5-3 lead in the 9th, you know the significance of playing for an additional run.
That's seven combined early and middle inning bunts or bunt attempts. The most productive was Florida's failed bunt attempt in the 3rd, which resulted in a two strike single. Two were failures by any definition (UF 3rd, USC 4th). The remaining four "successful" bunts advanced five total runners. One of those scored, and that was on a hit that would have scored the runner had he remained at 2nd.
Rosenberg's BA and C speed makes the call to bunt with him understandable, but a worst case DP scenario would have merely allowed the top of the order to lead off the following inning. I would prefer the #1 hitter lead off, but can understand why you would bunt to avoid the DP.
Post-BBCOR college baseball offensive numbers compare favorably to ML numbers from the early 60's, which was an era dominated by pitching. Runs were at even more of a premium in that time than in 2011 college baseball. Collegiate fielding is also literally at an all-time high, and not far from the ML fielding percentages of that time frame.
MLB stats by year: http://michaelbein.com/baseball.html NCAA stats by year (pg 22 of PDF): http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/baseball_cws_RB/2012/1-CWSGeneral.pdf
Despite an era of pitching dominance, successfully executed bunts in 1963 still reduced the bunting team's chances of scoring. Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1075767/1/index.htm
I think coaches have overreacted to the BBCOR-era by falling back on discredited bunting orthodoxy, and that they (and most of the respondents here) are exhibiting confirmation bias rather than critically examining the success rate of bunts. We have been successful the last three years due to fantastic pitching, fantastic post-season defense, and timely hitting. We are not bunting our way to victory.
As for the "Shut up, we won" replies, Florida also clearly follows the same strategy. They lost.
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We've given away 2 of our first 12 outs